Oh, also, to go way back up — Dan Maruschak my experience is the things are not exclusive to each other. Several of my longest term group members are self-defined immersives who go for deep, close to the bone bleed play and such. All of them, these days at least, use a lot of meta-communication and out of character knowledge in various ways to further their own play and that of others. 

So I’d say that no, the two things are not exclusive. It’s really all about what you do and how, and how much support the different input sets give you. 

…er… wait, gotta get judgemental, this is a Beakley thread. I mean to say “only morons think there is a hard line between immersive play and out of character knowledge.”