I had a fun experience with the crunch vs fluff thing the first time I took two trad players through a real Microscope scene. We had all played Microscope in the past, just with dictated scenes. And it was certainly cool. But I challenged them to roleplay a scene.

We had a world of artists beset by demons, and it was art and beauty that was able to hold the fiends at bay. The guy playing the big named hero of the period pied-pipered some demons into a volcano, but had to dive in himself or else they wouldn’t follow. The guy gave a speech to his unnamed squire and everything, dove to his doom, and they were both happy as shit that they just killed the traditional fantasy hero type they had both created.

But on the flip side, I’ve also had a guy in DW tell me that “bards suck because they can’t deal damage”. Feckin’ people…