Nicholas Hopkins you bet! Time constraints + the necessarily narrow bandwidth of spoken word means we kind of have to. I guess it’s really the wallowing, like, no attempt to bring anything new, nothing of yourself to the trope, that disappoints me. So for sure subversion would, I think by definition, be bringing something new.

Kind of like how I load my fantasy worlds with families and kids. Murderhoboing suddenly sucks! Nobody likes murderers, nobody likes hobos.