I’ve played with the Crusades, but not with the Teutons & Templars. Crusades was interesting, but after the game we felt like the individual victory should be bumped to 4VP in addition to bumping the alliance to 5 as it says in the rules. Otherwise there just doesn’t seem to be the incentive to engage in all the work and risk it takes to go on crusade while somebody is winning all by themselves on the main board.